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Anubias melting

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:54 am
by tank71
I noticed my anubias nana petite is losing it leaves and rhizome is getting soft and mushy. I just removed the bad leaves hoping it will recover.
The funny thing is I had a another anubias nana not a petite in the same location but I noticed a white fuzzy thing around the rhizome and it melted and died too.
Also the anubias is located close to the filter discharge could that be a problem? Or could it be some kind of disease and the area is infected?
Plus I have another two anubias nana in another location in the tank, but there doing okay and one of them sprouted a new leaf.

Re: Anubias melting

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:06 am
by tank71
I forgot to add I did dose some aqueon liquid plant food and have some java moss growing on the same piece of driftwood.

Re: Anubias melting

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:33 am
by ScottFish
I hate to ask the obvious: is the rhizome above the substrate?

Re: Anubias melting

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:42 am
by Crazygar
Good question Scottfish, if the Rhizome is below the substrate, it will rot and the plant will perish. The plant feeds through the Rhizome. Also, ensure you have appropriate water flow on the Anubias plants, since they are slow growing, algae attacks these first, with water flow, you can help combat this.

Gary

Re: Anubias melting

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:07 pm
by tank71
ScottFish wrote:I hate to ask the obvious: is the rhizome above the substrate?


Yes I attached the rhizome to a piece of driftwood and its close to the filter discharge. I did some research it seems to be some kind of disease I did have this problem before in my other tank,but I think that anubias was from Petsmart in those plastic containers and being underwater shocked it.
It seems odd that my other anubias is doing okay and one of them sprouted a new leaf and the one thats melting is in the same location as the first one that melted.

Re: Anubias melting

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:13 pm
by tank71
Pictures of my anubias the one on the top of the driftwood and next to the java moss is the one affected.

Re: Anubias melting

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:00 pm
by Crazygar
Yeah I can see the center turning yellow/brown. How recent is this new plant?

Gary

Re: Anubias melting

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:03 am
by tank71
Its about three weeks old also found another anubias nana melting also three weeks old. Here are some pics of the affected area.
I also removed all the melted areas put both plants in a different tank hoping they recover.

Re: Anubias melting

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:20 pm
by tank71
I'm giving this a shot placed the infected plants with untreated water Hawaii water is pretty good not to much chlorine and placed a air stone and added some erythromycin.
Hopefully this works.

Re: Anubias melting

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:36 am
by freshfish
My guess is these plants were damaged before you go them - got crushed or dried out or too hot or something along those lines.

How long have you had them?

Another thing you might try is dosing them with Excel to help kill off any algae.

Re: Anubias melting

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:51 am
by tank71
freshfish wrote:My guess is these plants were damaged before you go them - got crushed or dried out or too hot or something along those lines.

How long have you had them?

Another thing you might try is dosing them with Excel to help kill off any algae.


I had them for about three weeks

Re: Anubias melting

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:36 pm
by freshfish
Any chance you got them from a store that might take them back? Anubias are pretty resiliant so may survive, but you'd probably enjoy better starting off with some healthy plants rather than having to trying to nurse these back. :(

Re: Anubias melting

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:09 pm
by Blulu
What I've done with anubias that has become algae covered or mushy is rinse it off really well under a strong water stream until the rotted parts are gone and then bleach it in the std 19/1 bleach mixture for a minute or two, it will take quite a long exposure and not be harmed, rinse again in tap water, then soak in dechlor for 15 minutes or more. Usually the mushing stops and growth resumes. Always, the plants are much greener. If there are a lot of white roots, I swish everything but the roots in the bleach solution. I do this periodically to any anubias that's grungy looking and it doesn't harm them. Java fern can be treated the same way, but isn't quite as tough. Another thing I found is melting seems to follow yellow leaves, iron reverses that for me.

Anubias is like living rubber, once when treating a lot of new plants I left two frazeris in permanganate over night. The solution was fairly strong, the two plants were missed in the bottom of it and not found until the pail was dumped the next day. All the roots turned black but that's about it, the plants are growing great 6 months later. Even so, I probably got lucky. :relieved:

Re: Anubias melting

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:28 am
by tank71
freshfish wrote:Any chance you got them from a store that might take them back? Anubias are pretty resiliant so may survive, but you'd probably enjoy better starting off with some healthy plants rather than having to trying to nurse these back. :(


Sorry for the late reply its been crazy the last couple of weeks no I can't return the plants I'm planning to get some replacements,but going to hold off and see how the other two anubias do.
But I still have the other two in a quarantine tank the petites rhizome looks ok.The other nana might not recover though.

Re: Anubias melting

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:24 pm
by asukawashere
Sounds like Anubias Rot to me—it's a disease, believed to be fungal, that kills Anubias starting at the rhizome (first symptom is frequently a soft/rotted away rhizome) and kills off the whole plant in short order. It also can spread to other Anubias in the same tank—leading to mass losses of all Anubias in a setup. It's pretty vicious, and, as of yet, nobody's figured out how to cure it (there has been some success with prevention by immediately removing & discarding any Anubias that displays symptoms). You could try treating with an antifungal medication, as that's believed to be the underlying cause, but odds of success are slim, especially by the time you see symptoms.

Frankly, I'd not waste the effort in trying to rescue it—maybe if it were a rare specimen Anubias, but a common nana is easiyl replaced with a healthy specimen.