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The "siesta" method for algae control

PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:55 am
by Gabe
Can someone explain to me, what is the reasoning behind the "siesta" method for algae control?!?

I read in one of the treads about is ( viewtopic.php?f=90&t=24726&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a )and it sparked my interest!

Re: The "siesta" method for algae control

PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:08 am
by Renegade545
I hadn't even heard of that name before. But after a little google searching, i have found it is something i have heard and done before just never been called that name.

It is basically fragmenting your photoperiod. A days photoperiod might be 4 hours on 3 off, another 4 on. It is supposed to inhibit algae. And although i have used this method, it wasn't for algae control but CO2 control instead, so can't attest to its algae controlling abilities.

Re: The "siesta" method for algae control

PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:43 am
by J.B.
I've got a book called "Today's Essential Guide to Growing Aquarium Plants" by Peter Hiscock (<< I wonder if he was teased and taunted as a child) and he mentions this method for controlling algae as well. I've never tried it, but I've not had a big algae issue to contend with. <<<knocks on wood>>>

Re: The "siesta" method for algae control

PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:48 pm
by freshfish
The idea usually is to have the lights on during the prime viewing periods (people are usually home in the morning and in the evening) without having the lights running all day, which would be too much.

Re: The "siesta" method for algae control

PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 4:24 pm
by Gabe
An interesting idea! I have a fair amount of algae to try it on. However I do not know if it would work on all types of algae?!!!

Re: The "siesta" method for algae control

PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:14 pm
by WhoMe???
J.B. wrote:I've got a book called "Today's Essential Guide to Growing Aquarium Plants" by Peter Hiscock (<< I wonder if he was teased and taunted as a child) and he mentions this method for controlling algae as well. I've never tried it, but I've not had a big algae issue to contend with. <<<knocks on wood>>>


I imagine Mr Hiscock took a lot of heat as a child...lol. I can sympathize, my last name is Peck:
woodpecker...peckerhead..., the list goes on, just use your imagination...lmao :rofl:
Anyway, I use siestas, especially during the summer, not so much for the algea as heat control. Here in Florida during the summer my tanks can peak about 90 degrees with the plant lights, which my discus LOVE... but during the afternoon I shut them off an hour to cool the room down a bit, and at the same time keep the algea somewhat in check.

Re: The "siesta" method for algae control

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:35 am
by montanahh
The basic principle behind the siesta is that algae need a steady 10-14 hrs of light to proliferate. The 2 hr siesta breaks that cycle, thus weaking the growth of algae, and no effect on the plants. I have been using this method for years and swear by it. Even if your tank is in the ideal parameter range, it is still a great preventative.

Re: The "siesta" method for algae control

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:03 am
by WhoMe???
montanahh wrote:The basic principle behind the siesta is that algae need a steady 10-14 hrs of light to proliferate. The 2 hr siesta breaks that cycle, thus weaking the growth of algae, and no effect on the plants. I have been using this method for years and swear by it. Even if your tank is in the ideal parameter range, it is still a great preventative.


I like to think of it this way... mytanks are basically Amazonian, which implies tropical rainforest. So I figure my siesta time is an afternoon thunderstorm, when the sky darkens and the rain ripples across the water surface. So I siesta and have my bubbler pumps set to come on when the lights go off (in case of reverse photosynthsis), to simulate this effect.

Re: The "siesta" method for algae control

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:05 am
by montanahh
That's how I pretty much so think of it also. I dont run air for the two hours like you do. The plants aren't going to consume that much O2 through respiration for such a short period, even if the room your tank is in is pitch black. I do run air at night in one of my tanks for 5 hours though, mainly because the tank is so heavilly planted and has a high bio-load. The fish are gasping in the morning if I dont. There is enough ambient light in the rooms my tanks are in, so it's just like you said, a cloudy spell, or storm clouds. Something along those lines. IMO the air during siesta is not neccessary, but what works for you is all that matters :)

Re: The "siesta" method for algae control

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:43 am
by WhoMe???
montanahh wrote:That's how I pretty much so think of it also. I dont run air for the two hours like you do. The plants aren't going to consume that much O2 through respiration for such a short period, even if the room your tank is in is pitch black. I do run air at night in one of my tanks for 5 hours though, mainly because the tank is so heavilly planted and has a high bio-load. The fish are gasping in the morning if I dont. There is enough ambient light in the rooms my tanks are in, so it's just like you said, a cloudy spell, or storm clouds. Something along those lines. IMO the air during siesta is not neccessary, but what works for you is all that matters :)


Actually, the only reason i run the bubblers during siesta is they're tied to the same timer the last set of lights are on, one of those duel timer jobs; so when the last set of lights go off, the bubblers automatically come on, and vice versa.
I like not having to screw around with them this way, everything is automatic.

Re: The "siesta" method for algae control

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:12 pm
by montanahh
Don't mess with it if it aint broke theory :D

Re: The "siesta" method for algae control

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:35 pm
by Gabe
Those are all very interesting answers! I also set the lights up for the 2 hours of "siesta"! Thanks all!

Re: The "siesta" method for algae control

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:18 pm
by Crazygar
I've never really bothered with the Siesta period. Though I hear that others live by it. Once again, if its not broken, don't fix it. What types of algae are you dealing with Gabe? You do you have a Farm going?

Gary

Re: The "siesta" method for algae control

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:19 pm
by montanahh
Yah, he's probably dealing with Swartzenegger algae yah. It will be back! :biglaugh: I laugh at your puny siesta jokes :D

Re: The "siesta" method for algae control

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:34 pm
by Crazygar
I had that in my SW Tank. I was the "Old MacDonald of Algae Farming".

Gabe, how about a shot of the tank and describe some of the algae that you are dealing with.

Gary