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Re: Tank bloggin

PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:28 pm
by DaFishMan
75g temp 78.5F, nitrates 17, pH 7, iron not enough of a result to guage. Dosed 7ml liquid flourish iron. Will dose potassium tuesday. Checked eheim, no leaks.

40g 1/3 or so water change including flourite vac, manual removal of some leftover roots, pulled a val from the 75g and planted it, along with one downoi bit. Have an extra analog timer somewhere, have to find it for the light. There's still a mi oya in there and a couple c krauteri.

I think my 3 adult bn plecos are doing a number on the vals, plus some grazing damage to the swordplant. I watched one land on a val and the ensuing crash since the val doesn't support its weight lol. Considering switching them out for either juvie albino longfins or see if I can find some otos. Hoping someone will want to do a trade.

Re: Tank bloggin

PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:01 am
by Crazygar
The best thing you can for that tank right now is to let it grow out. I do that with mine. I let the plants go nuts before starting to introduce the fish. Yes, the Greenhouse idea is a great way to get your plants used to your water and develop a good root system. Also, when you replant, the die back is not as bad.

Gary

Re: Tank bloggin

PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:50 pm
by DaFishMan
Thanks as usual for the great advice :)

I was in a hurry to get the 75g stocked you're right should have left it fishless for awhile. At least the 40g is seeing a new purpose and fishless (albeit tons of mts snails) so I'll be attempting some growout there. Also would be a good place to start soaking driftwood bits and get mosses and java fern lace on them :)

Noticable difference in water movement with the eheim. The entire left side all the plants have a gentle sway.
Once I remove the hob from the right in a month I'll have to see if the right side still sways, if not a powerhead as you mentioned may be a welcome addition. I'll try and get the tank soon. 10 lb or a 20lb if it'll fit easily.

Re: Tank bloggin

PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:49 pm
by DaFishMan
I was taking stock of some of my different test kits and ferts. What potassium is best to add - sulfate or nitrate ?
I have just under 20 nitrate atm.

I don't need a dedicated fert schedule yet but it wouldn't hurt to start learning again to prevent deficiencies.
I usually don't have to worry about nitrates, unless I get an excess of. I have a phosphate test kit as well.
My main concerns are chelated iron, potassium, and trace elements.

I've been a Flourish excel proponent for a few years now. Lately bought flourish comp and flourish iron.
Reading Gary's notes on Pheonix and having a long respect for his plant methods - I noted the swing toward the flourish line. I added a cap of flourish comp to the 75g and 4 caps of excel. I'm underdosing excel on purpose atm due to the vals in one tank and mosses in the other. Underdosing everything right now as don't want to overdo it and cause algae.


I haven't used it in awhile so added 3 caps of excel to the 40g and 2 caps into the 25.

Re: Tank bloggin

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:43 am
by Crazygar
Just remember on the dosing DFM. I do 1 cap one day, 2 caps the next. I usually also put in Comprehensive every 3 days now. I also dose up some Monobasic Potassium Phosphate (lab grade) once a water change as well and Iron still at once a month. It's a system that has worked for me, but it might not work for others.

Good to see the tank finally starting to take form!

Gary

Re: Tank bloggin

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:12 pm
by DaFishMan
Noted !

I have a container of mono basic potassium phosphate. If I were to dry-dose some to the 75g, how much would I use ?
Re the iron I did 7ml the other day (7.5 recommended for the tank) but didn't do a reading after.

Maybe I should look up dry dosing on the potassium :)

The e latifolius source in whitby has let me know he has more if needed. I will try to get there within the next few weeks that way can ship you 2 types of echinodorus foregrounds & such before the season changes :)

Re: Tank bloggin

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:28 pm
by DaFishMan
guesstimatedly dosed 1/16th tspn of KH2P04.

Re: Tank bloggin

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:42 pm
by DaFishMan
Going back to whitby tonight, meeting my plant contact at the dras meet. That means more e latifolius.

I'm trading away my full-size bn plecos so I have 3 to catch in the 75g.
I have a line on some O cacoma , considering buying 8, but I might go for 10.

Don't know what to expect at the dras but there's an auction every meet, I may wind up with some plants
or fish.

Re: Tank bloggin

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:46 am
by DaFishMan
Good stuff tonight at Dras.

My adult bn's are now in a good home. More e latifolius and italian vals. The e latifolius is healthier then last.
There's enough to finish the front area of the 75g too.

Got home later then I wanted to, worked quickly. The vals and Gary's e lat are trimmed up and in the 40,
along with a domestic bred pair of german blue rams. My e lat is in a container until tomorrow, ROFL.

To do, trim my e lats and plant them in the 40, switch vals back and forth between the 2 tanks, figure how I want to divide the 40 for plants or leave them as they are. The 40 is a couple degrees colder then I'd like it to be for rams 76f. The heater is on now.

Re: Tank bloggin

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:16 pm
by DaFishMan
Sept 15 FLORA - Updated list for Gary.

The ones not in red are avail to you and Soul-Hugger. The red are single plant or untradeable condition atm.
So far reserved for you: a good handful each of the 2 types of chain swords, plus a C wendtii v. krauteri :D
Also pretty sure I'm going to Menagerie this weekend, let me know what else is on your want list & I'll check what's there.

75 gal
Red Rubin Sword 1(Echinodorus rubin)
Italian Vals
Echinodorus angustifolius
Echinodorus latifolius
Blyxa Japonica 3
Crypt nevilli 1

40 gal
Italian Vals
Echinodorus angustifolius
Echinodorus latifolius
Crypt wendtii var. krauteri 2
Downoi (Pogostemon helferi)
Thread-Leaf Val (Vallisneria natans v. ‘Thread-Leaf’) 1
Crypt wendtii ‘Mi-Oya’ 1


25 gal
Java Fern Lace ‘Wendelov’
Echinodorus angustifolius
Java moss
Taiwan Moss
Flame Moss
Fissidens fontanus
Zipper Moss (Fissidens zeppelianus)
Crypts – C undulata ‘copper’, wendtii ‘tropica’ & ‘bronze’, becktii, others.
- waiting to see what returns from 'The Melt'.

Although there are now pairs of angelfish, rams, and possibly l dorsigera about, keeping my focus on water quality and plant progagation at this point. Also to continue organizing the apt and fish stuff as it all helps.

Re: Tank bloggin

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:03 pm
by DaFishMan
Prepped my share of the e lats. No time to plant have to go out so will be in a container with tank water until tomorrow.

Re: Tank bloggin

PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:31 am
by DaFishMan
Did alot of planting and moving tonight. The 75 is looking better and the 40 is starting to look planted again.
I'm getting sick of planting stuff lol, one more round to do this weekend in the 40.

It's confirmed, 8 zebra otos are reserved. I pick them up Saturday ! I must say, I'm nervous as heck about those.
There's green spot algae around too, good stuff.

I mailed my passport app today on the way home from work. Discovered there a closer place where I could *cough cough*
ship a plant package.

Re: Tank bloggin

PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:49 am
by Crazygar
If you are sending plants out here DFM, best be quick buddy, its already jacket weather and we had our first frost last night. Sigh.

Sounds like things are busy for you, good.

Gary

Re: Tank bloggin

PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 2:02 pm
by DaFishMan
First frost, that will be here any day now ! It's the last weekend of summer it was a busy one but also a good one.
I'll keep pressing forth thru the fall while I'm on a roll. Hoping to wind down when the weather gets cold, and just enjoy the tank & the fish and plants.

Speaking of plants, I will send you a pack this week :)

The trip to Menagerie went well. Theres 8 Otocinclus cocama drip-acclimating in the bucket. I used an air line going from the tank and tied a knot in it to control the drip rate. When the bucket is 3/4 full, the whole bucket gets poured into the 75. Also grabbed another downoi plant as I don't know if my tiny shred of a sprig will bounce back. I need to read everything re oto care and diet as I want this batch to last long and prosper. I'm starting them in the 75. They may go into a species tank later but atm the 75 is the most suitable overall. Also have cucumber ready (there's a thin slice in the bucket even, along with some spirulina). I'm nervous, at the same time I've wanted these fish since not long after I went planted, so I'm freaking out !

Re: Tank bloggin

PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:15 pm
by DaFishMan
Today found me at Canada post, sending someone a small variety of plants.
With todays work done (shirking the rest) it's time to relax, look in the tank a bit, then play some COD4MW.

I lost one of the otos found it this morning. I was careful and did a 3 hour drip acclimation but expected to lose 1 or 2 as they are sensitive fish. The color in the rest appear to be good. Hoping Tuesday night brings a friend with 10mp 15x opt zoom to get some pics of the tank progress and fish.