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Where can I find Crossocheilus atrilimes?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:33 am
by C. Andrew Nelson
As many of you know, I am putting together a "Thailand Only" tank. I would love to include a couple of Siamese Algae Eaters (Crossocheilus siamensis). The problem is that they can get up to 6 inches long (150 mm) and the aquarium is only 16 gallons. After doing a little research I discovered another closely related species known as Crossocheilus atrilimes which has all the same characteristics as C. siamensis, is also native to Thailand, but only gets to half the size.

Everything I've read states that Crossocheilus atrilimes is fairly common in the hobby, yet I cannot for the life of me find any for sale anywhere. Does anyone here know of a source for Crossocheilus atrilimes?

Re: Where can I find Crossocheilus atrilimes?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:07 am
by Crazygar
I would start with your local Aquarium Club, but due to the rarity of these in the hobby, I think you'd have to contact an Importer that deals with fish from Thailand.

Gary

Re: Where can I find Crossocheilus atrilimes?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:11 pm
by Diana
Have you tried Wet Spot in Oregon?

Re: Where can I find Crossocheilus atrilimes?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:08 pm
by Crazygar
Yeah, Wet Spot (which would be closer to you) or Oddball Aquatics.

Gary

Re: Where can I find Crossocheilus atrilimes?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:05 pm
by C. Andrew Nelson
I checked with Wet Spot, but they didn't have any at this time. I'll try Oddball.

Upon further research I'm starting to get cold feet (cold fins?) about C. atrilimes as I've learned they like to chow down on java moss and small-leafed plants. I want an algae/aufuchs eating fish (which needs to be a Thailand native species) for this tank and thought C. atrilimes would be a good choice since its half the size of all the other Thai algae eaters I've found, but not at the expense of having it gobble up my Rotala rotundifolia or my java & Christmas mosses I plant to put in this tank. What to do, what to do?

I plan on having Dwarf Chain Loaches in this set-up, but I don't think they are aufwuchs grazers. I suppose I could get a very young C. Siamensis or C. langei and keep it in there until it gets too big (giving me an excuse to beg my wife to let me have a larger tank later). They prefer to be in groups, though, so I would feel bad about getting just one.

I would love to have a Red-Tailed Shark (Epalzeorhynchos bicolor) in this tank, however I know that some specimens can get rather territorial as they age. I wouldn't want it to turn belligerent towards the Dwarf Chain Loaches. On the plus side, Red-Tailed Sharks are native to Thailand, excellent algae/aufwuchs grazers, fun to watch, beautiful to look at, and don't get anywhere near as big as C. Siamemsis or C. langei do.

If anyone has any recommendations I would greatly appreciate it. Here are the stats and the stocking plan so far...

Aqueon LED 16 Widescreen Aquarium kit (with just the stock equipment)
30"L x 16"H x 8"D
pH = 6.6
Temp = 78F
Heavily planted with...
Cyperus helferi
Vallisneria spiralis
Blyxa japonica
Rotala rotundifolia
Java fern
Hygrophila corymbosa "siamensis"
Cryptocoryne cordata "blassii"
Dwarf hairgrass
Nymphaea rubra lotus
ChristmaS moss (and/or Java moss)

Planned stocking list will definitely include...

Betta splendens (1 female)
Emerald Eye (Eyespot) Rasboras
Purple Harlequin Rasboras
Glass Catfish
Malaysian Trumpet Snails

...and may also include some or all of the following...

Dwarf Chain Loaches
Eight-Banded False Barbs
Silver Halfbeaks
Bamboo Shrimp (just one)

If the Dwarf Chain Loaches are not aufwuchs grazers, does anyone have a suggestion for one? Keep in mind it must be native to Thailand.

Re: Where can I find Crossocheilus atrilimes?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:31 pm
by Crazygar
Halfbeaks are easily spooked, which could cause them to crash into the side of the aquarium. If they break their mouth, they are goners, they are best as Species only or in a more peaceful tank.

I've kept these before, wonderful fish, in a Community tank they are doomed, in species only, they live a long time. I learned my lesson.

Gary

Re: Where can I find Crossocheilus atrilimes?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:08 pm
by C. Andrew Nelson
I still might add halfbeaks to this tank. My LFS has some that don't seem to be skittish at all. They are in a tank with other species and doing just fine. But I will take your advice into consideration. Such fascinating fish.

Re: Where can I find Crossocheilus atrilimes?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:38 am
by Crazygar
They are interesting indeed, don't keep them with boisterous tankmates or fish that can easily spook them and yes, keep an eye on them.

Gary