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Re: Moving, how to?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:37 pm
by C. Andrew Nelson
That's good news (well, for your fish at least). Much better to be able to take your time moving your fish (and you) than to be rushed.

Re: Moving, how to?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:23 am
by Diana
If the water at the new location is from the same water company, or tests the same as at the old location (TDS, GH, KH, pH) then there is no need to save so much water.

If the water at the new place is different, and you have 2 weeks, there is time to start adapting the fish to the new water.
Go to the new place and get as much water as you can. Divide this equally among the tanks so they all get the same % of new water. Do this as often as you can, or transport enough water to do this several times.
Then, when you move, bring with you not just the water from the tanks, but make another trip and bring more water.

Keep track of what % the tanks are (old water: new water) and keep on making the change over slow and steady. The total change may take a month or so: 2 weeks at your current place, then another 2 weeks at the new place.

You can also try to make a blend of minerals to add to the softer water, or get a RO unit to take out minerals from the harder water and make the waters more alike. Easier than transporting so much water.

Re: Moving, how to?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:40 pm
by twotone12valve
Thats what I am thinking I will try and do Diana, I'm a little unsure of my water at this point actually. I took a water test yesterday an found that my pH had shot to over 8.2 from the tap. Now I'm not 100% this was correct I'm going to do a check on it after work today and see what I get. My old numbers were 7.2-7.4 depending on the season

Re: Moving, how to?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:19 am
by Crazygar
Some good advice here, either way, the best thing you can do is not rush things. With rushing, comes a disaster.

Gary

Re: Moving, how to?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:47 pm
by Diana
Check GH, KH and TDS. These are more important than pH.

If the tap water has changed pH, then the water company may have done something.

If the water in the tank is showing a rising pH, then lets track it down.
The most common reason for pH to rise is because there are more carbonates in the water. Certainly not the only reason. Have you added any decor such a rock or shells? Any other changes?
The other most common reason for pH to rise is the daily pH swing that happens when the tank is planted. As plants remove pretty much all the CO2 from the water (by about noon to early afternoon, usually) the pH rises. Overnight the pH will drop as fish add CO2 to the water, but the plants are not using it.

Re: Moving, how to?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:02 pm
by twotone12valve
My tap water seems to be showing around 7.6-8.0 depending on the time of day, hardness and alkalinity have not changed enough to show on test strips.

I'm starting to think that the tanks high pH reading is due to CO2, I due use a DIY method of CO2 but it is probably not enough CO2 to maintain a stable pH also its not on a timer or anything.

Ether way the water seems to be very close to the water I'll be moving to so I'm hoping everything goes smoothly.

Re: Moving, how to?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:09 pm
by Diana
Mineral levels, TDS, GH and KH are more important than pH.

DIY CO2 can show a daily swing that will reflect when the plants are doing.

At night, CO2 enters the water, the plants do not use it, and the pH drops.
In the morning the lights come on and the plants start using the CO2. There is a bit of a build up from the night, so it takes a while for the plants to catch up, but eventually they will use up most of the CO2 and the pH starts to rise.

So, if you test the pH at different times of the day, and you will find low pH in the early morning, before and shortly after lights on, and higher pH by about noon to early afternoon.

Water companies will add something to the water to keep the pH high. Acidic water is hard on the pipes. My local water company adds sodium hydroxide, and the pH comes out of the tap in the upper 7s, or into the 8s. GH and KH are almost always about 4-5 degrees, year round.

Re: Moving, how to?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:20 am
by Crazygar
I guess I am blessed with Soft water right out of the tap.

On the biggies as well, is keeping the water oxygenated for your fish during the move. Very important, battery operated pumps to give some bubbles into the water will do fine!

Gary